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Re: Worst Political Cartoons
« Reply #4020 on: December 11, 2013, 03:31:39 pm »
My brother's friend worked for NASA; my brother works as a surgical nurse in a county hospital trauma unit, and I think this is clearly a case of me switching the sets of reports in my memory of our conversations about the two separate incidents. In any case, I still hate that cartoonist, and that email bounced back at me as undeliverable, so Ramirez has not seen it. Fuck him, anyway.

Ah! I understand, now.

Well, either way, as you said, fuck the cartoonist guy.


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Re: Worst Political Cartoons
« Reply #4021 on: December 12, 2013, 01:43:49 pm »
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Mercury and Apollo had Launch Escape Towers that would have carried the Command Module away from the launch vehicle in the case of an abort.  Gemini used ejection seats like the first four Shuttle missions would.

My understanding is that no space shuttles after the first two prototype launches contained any ejection system. To include one of any kind would take up too much space for something that wasn't of any use. This is further proved by the fact that there was a lot of research in to refitting the shuttles with an eject system after one of the disasters and it was found to be next to impossible without totally rebuilding the shuttle.

The first four launches of Columbia, STS-1 through 4, that had ejection seats.  Starting with STS-5 the shuttle was considered "Operational" and the ejection seats were removed.  From STS-5 through the STS-51L disaster (the Challenger explosion) the crew didn't even wear pressure suits during lift-off--you see footage of the astronauts going out to the pad between 1982 and 1986, they'll be in their blue jumpsuits.  The orange pressure suits came back after the Challenger explosion because of several abort escape options added after the disaster, but none of them would have saved the Challenger crew.

But basically, yeah, like MadCat said, it was decided that retrofitting a full cabin ejection would have been a big retrofitting of the vehicles, and kept them out of service for years before flying again.  NASA decided it just wasn't worth it for the relatively small increase in safety overall, I guess.

On topic: Yep, Ramirez is a big asshole for drawing this cartoon.
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Re: Worst Political Cartoons
« Reply #4022 on: December 18, 2013, 02:45:52 pm »
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Re: Worst Political Cartoons
« Reply #4023 on: December 18, 2013, 03:14:24 pm »
Giving teachers guns is a bad idea, after a while they'd just be shooting them themselves.

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Re: Worst Political Cartoons
« Reply #4024 on: December 18, 2013, 04:25:28 pm »
I actually worry if teachers are armed that kids will be too intimidaated

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Re: Worst Political Cartoons
« Reply #4025 on: December 18, 2013, 04:39:11 pm »
I know that some teachers are armed in really rough neighborhoods but I don't want to see it become a requirement.

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Re: Worst Political Cartoons
« Reply #4026 on: December 18, 2013, 06:43:48 pm »
I've heard cases of teachers snapping and screaming etc and I don't want chance to go violent. 

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Re: Worst Political Cartoons
« Reply #4027 on: December 18, 2013, 07:04:23 pm »
Not to mention that cartoon assumes that all teacher would WANT to carry a gun. my mother certainly doesn't, and if I become a teacher I wouldn't.
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Re: Worst Political Cartoons
« Reply #4028 on: December 18, 2013, 07:08:49 pm »
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Re: Worst Political Cartoons
« Reply #4029 on: December 18, 2013, 11:53:45 pm »






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Re: Worst Political Cartoons
« Reply #4030 on: December 19, 2013, 12:04:39 am »
I don't even... what?

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Re: Worst Political Cartoons
« Reply #4031 on: December 19, 2013, 12:13:01 am »
Investors Business Daily, where differing viewpoints get crassly turned into distorted oversimplified and often completely inaccurate caricatures.

Pretty much anyone who uses the term "Big Labor" unironically and thinks that unions are not part of the Free Market is a moron and if you voted for politicians that try to crush unions, it is completely and entirely your fault if you get fucked over.

Also, the Tea Party vs Occupy Wall Street cartoon? What fucking point to the Teabaggers have? The Tea Baggers are mostly right-wing Baby Boomers, and are known for their arrogant sense of "I'm right, you're wrong," they're closed-mindedness, their paranoia, their complete lack of an education because they have no goddamn motherfucking clue what socialism is, their hypocrisy (they like to bash liberals for not "taking personal responsibility" and that they should "blame themselves" if they have no job when all the Tea Baggers do is bitch about something they think Obama did based on some right-wing blog they read daily), they infest the city-data political forums (I left that site because of all the Tea Bagger idiocy and because the posters were utter douchebags), they can't even comprehend the possibility that they might not be right 100% of the time, and they drone on and on about how patriotic they are and how important it is to love America and "support the troops" when most of them probably shit themselves or did everything they could to avoid actually fighting for this country. They're fucking cretins who are not only willfully ignorant, but they bask in their ignorance and think it empowers them.

As for the "endless unemployment benefits"…I can't even describe how fucking wrong that fucking piece of fucking shit cartoon is. Christ, WE DON'T FUCKING HAVE FUCKING ENDLESS UNEMPLOYMENT BENEFITS. God fucking damn it you stupid fucking right-wing cartoonists. Do some fucking research before you fucking post your fucking shit. Yeah, unemployment benefits are what cause unemployment. Jesus Christ, I can't with these stupid motherfuckers. I just can't. Fuck that goddamn fucking newspaper.

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Re: Worst Political Cartoons
« Reply #4032 on: December 19, 2013, 01:00:44 am »


...And then




What?  I mean... WHAT?!

Ramirez... what... WHAT?!?!

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Re: Worst Political Cartoons
« Reply #4033 on: December 19, 2013, 01:12:30 am »
Yeah, I saw that issue, too. Between that and all the other f'ed up derp in his cartoons, he wins my Worst Cartoonist Ever award. Maybe Worst Person, too. Ramirez is the perfect opposite of Bennett.
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Re: Worst Political Cartoons
« Reply #4034 on: December 19, 2013, 08:44:23 am »
I've been meaning to use this gif again:

Ramirez,


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