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Politics and Government / Texas protecting the "sanctity of life" again
« Last post by Askold on Today at 09:46:14 am »
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/texas-senate-passes-bill-allowing-obs-to-keep-info-from-pregnant-women_us_58d0870fe4b00705db521fb2

This time by allowing doctors to lie to their patients. You see, if it turns out that a fetus has disabilities the doctor can instead lie to prevent the parents from opting to abort the fetus...

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The final Senate vote on Tuesday split 21-9, largely along party lines. During an earlier period of debate on the Senate floor, Senator Jose Rodriguez (D-TX) expressed concern that the bill was simply a means of chipping away at women’s rights, The Houston Chronicle reports.

“It seems to be all about restricting and further limiting a woman’s right to exercise her choice as to what she’s going to do in the case of serious defects in the fetus, congenital defects in the fetus,” said Sen. Rodriguez.

SB 25 was not the only abortion bill to move quickly through the Texas Senate this week.

I'm sure that if they could just pass a ban on all abortions they would.

So, how many days was it that Texas wasn't an embarrassment to USA?
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Politics and Government / Re: Mr. Trump Goes to Washington
« Last post by SCarpelan on Today at 08:36:00 am »
All the stuff about Trump's lying, sexism and so on are important in their own right but they pale when compared to a couple of vital issues:

1. Climate change. This is something I myself didn't really consider enough earlier but he is helping the Republicans to do irreparable damage. Trump personally and the Republican party as a whole deny and directly contribute to the worst direct threat our species is dealing with.

2. Health care. While it seems the ACA repeal has failed for now it is not for the lack of trying by Trump & co. This would have directly killed tens of millions of Americans.

I would be interested in knowing how can one ignore these issues and vote Trump if they are not living in a complete Republican / conservative bubble and have the time to actually do some basic research on them.
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The Lounge / Re: Random Thoughts Thread
« Last post by Random Guy on Today at 08:04:56 am »
I've decided to become a Republican. Mostly because it's a lot less taxing on my mind. On economic issues, I just need to remember the three principles: "Privatize it", "The free market can handle that", and "support Israel". On social issues, I just need to ask "What would Paul from Corinthians say?"

So easy. And with that line of thinking, I thought of a great way to privatize the army.

Isn't it still a few days too early to announce that?
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Politics and Government / Re: Mr. Trump Goes to Washington
« Last post by The_Queen on Today at 08:00:45 am »
And some people might think that being a woman is a flaw.

Eh, casual sexism is losing the popular vote by roughly three million, and accusing the system of being rigged because a woman can't possibly get more support than you, Mr. Manly Man.

ETA: I'm gonna speak more about this later. Gird your shit.
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Politics and Government / Re: Mr. Trump Goes to Washington
« Last post by Tolpuddle Martyr on Today at 07:10:24 am »
People actually take the Benghazi manufactroversy seriously, still?

Weird.
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Forum Games / Re: Random Sentences (Devoid of Context)
« Last post by Art Vandelay on Today at 07:05:45 am »
I love mugs so much, I just might kill myself.
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Politics and Government / Re: Mr. Trump Goes to Washington
« Last post by dpareja on Today at 04:57:33 am »
https://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=115&session=1&vote=00094

The Senate voted 50-48 to strike down an FCC rule that would have prevented ISPs from selling your browsing history to third parties.

The vote was strictly party-line. Sens. Isakson (R-GA) and Paul (R-KY) did not vote.

http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2017/roll202.xml

In the House, the vote was 215-205, with 9 not voting. No Democratic Representative voted for the resolution; 15 Republicans joined them. Of the 9 not voting, 6 were Republicans and 3 were Democrats.

The 15 Republicans who voted to maintain privacy were Reps. Amash (R-MI 3rd), Brooks (R-AL 5th), Coffman (R-CO 6th), Davidson (R-OH 8th), Duncan (R-TN 2nd), Faso (R-NY 19th), Graves (R-LA 6th), Herrera Beutler (R-WA 3rd), Jones (R-NC 3rd), McClintock (R-CA 4th), Reichert (R-WA 8th), Sanford (R-SC 1st), Stefanik (R-NY 21st), Yoder (R-KS 3rd), and Zeldin (R-NY 1st).

The 9 Representatives (other than Speaker Ryan) who did not vote were Reps. Duffy (R-WI 7th), Hill (R-AR 2nd), Marino (R-PA 10th), Pittenger (R-NC 9th), Ros-Lehtinen (R-FL 27th), Rush (D-IL 1st), Simpson (R-ID 2nd), Slaughter (D-NY 25th), and Tonko (D-NY 20th). There are five vacancies, in Montana's At-Large district, South Carolina's 5th, Georgia's 6th, California's 34th, and Kansas's 4th.

The Verge compiled a list of the people who voted for the resolution with how much money the telecoms gave them:

https://www.theverge.com/2017/3/29/15100620/congress-fcc-isp-web-browsing-privacy-fire-sale

Mitch McConnell, for instance, received over $250,000 from the telecoms, but Sen. John Kennedy (R-LA) sold out your privacy for a paltry $1,000. (The newly appointed Sen. Luther Strange from Alabama hasn't even had time to take any money and still sold you out!) In the House, Majority Leader Kevin McCarthy (R-CA 23rd) took almost $100,000, while Reps. Fred Upton (R-MI 6th), John Shimkus (R-IL 15th) and Steve Scalise (R-LA 1st) took over $100,000, and Rep. Gregory Walden (R-OR 2nd) took a whopping $155,100, but Rep. Jim Bridenstine (R-OK 1st) cost only $1,000, Rep. Phil Roe (R-TN 1st) needed only $500, and Rep. Clay Higgins (R-LA 3rd) was willing to go for a mere $300.
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Politics and Government / Re: Mr. Trump Goes to Washington
« Last post by niam2023 on Today at 04:13:37 am »
Do you mind if I ask why you like him?

Firstly, I liked how he speaks his mind, though at times I think there are times he needs to think before speaking. I also like that he supposedly isn't attached to the establishment and that he ran on his own campaign funds. Also, I am getting tired of all of the SJW, BLM, politically correct bullshit and he represented an opposition to that. (That SJW PC crap turned me into a centrist) I also liked that he wants to go after illegal immigrants who have been taking jobs away from Americans. I know personally of quite a few people who have either been passed over for some Mexican or have been fired from a majority Mexican job who possibly may have illegal immigrants in it. So I am against that but not for those who have came here the proper way and worked their asses off to be here, it's not fair for those to have gone through all that to build a life here and see illegals come in and get everything for free.
Secondly, Hillary is corrupt. I have read some of the Wikileaks emails and I also have read about how she threatened and intimidated some of Bill's rape victims. She also had that whole thing with Benghazi and some other stuff that escapes me at the moment but all I knew was I didn't want her as President. Maybe someone else but I really feel the DNC messed up with having her run.
If this makes me "dumb" or "stupid" then so be it, I know I won't get along with everyone on here.

I still have my own personal political beliefs about certain things. I don't hate anyone but I just want to be open about this.

Everything you say about Hillary, Trump seems to have taken as his job description - he is little more than Putin's hand puppet, the Russian's hand wedged tightly up his ass and making him talk.

As for your talk of an opposition to "SJW, BLM PC Crap", it has turned you into little better than Milo Yiannopolous, not a centrist. As for people passed over for Mexicans or other Latinos, well, my heart is absolutely dry if those incidents even happened at all. The much spoken of white working class is moribund, delirious, despicable, and deserves to rot - let them have their heroin needles and Xanax "prescriptions".

Trump does not say it like it is. He says it like how he wishes it was. He claims to be strong but he is a weak willed, easily manipulable man that can be easily led around by the nose.

The media rightfully has it out for this hideously corrupt waste of skin crowned by a dead ferret and his septic, pus filled followers.
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Politics and Government / Re: Mr. Trump Goes to Washington
« Last post by Askold on Today at 03:14:23 am »
I'm sorry, but saying Hillary Clinton being racist is why you voted for Trump is quite possibly the most ironic thing I've heard all year.

It's probably the most obvious one but in almost* every category Hillary is more qualified than Donald so focusing on any of her flaws seems odd as it means ignoring the same flaws in him.

Corruption: Trump has several legal problems and it already is apparent that he is using presidency to help his business.
Track record: Clinton is a successful politician and has done well in business. Trump has repeatedly failed and even his most "succesfull" businesses are either: Burning down a successful company to get some money out of it quickly or attaching his name to something that he cannot control at all and taking credit for the success (which seems to be his MO as a president as well.)
Marriage: Complaints about Clinton are mainly "her husband cheated on her" (as if that is her fault) while Trump himself has cheated on his wives and bragged about it.
Birtherism: Trump was one of the major celebreties going on and on about Obama having faked his birth certificate yet he somehow had the audacity to claim that Hillary started it?
"Saying it like it is" claim: Trump lies repeatedly. He misdirects, he lies, he says things that are quite easily disproven just so that he can be on the news again. And somehow his fans at the same time consider him honest and claim that he doesn't mean what he said. Like all those voters who said that they think Trump was being metaphorical when he said that he is definitely going to build a physical wall on the border. Clinton has lied occasionally but never in the same scope as Trump does repeatedly.
Work time: Hillary has been on the job constantly for years. Trump did very little by himself in business (since his companies run better without him) and as a president has spent more time on vacation than any other POTUS before him. Trump himself complained about Obama taking vacations and spending tax payer money and now he himself does it and even more... Granted that some think that this is just Trump delegating again and that this is a good thing, but it's not like Hillary (and Obama) knew how to delegate as well but still stayed on the job and at least tried to keep track of what is going on (while Trump is infamous for ignoring intel.)

The list goes on. I am not trying to attack Radiation (or other Trump fans) and I'm just merely astonished at the double standards here. How do people ignore all the evidence against Trump and why focus on minor nitpicking only when talking about Clinton?

*The sole exception being that Hillary is a career politician so Trump can be seen as an outsider. ...And some people might think that being a woman is a flaw.
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Politics and Government / Re: Mr. Trump Goes to Washington
« Last post by Cloud3514 on Today at 02:56:51 am »
I'm sorry, but saying Hillary Clinton being racist is why you voted for Trump is quite possibly the most ironic thing I've heard all year.
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